b3n3aththesurfac3

b3n3aththesurfac3:

I sat down in the stadium at 8:38pm, the show did not start until 9:00pm. One of the adult killer whales did sort of a dead man’s float for twenty minutes. They were already doing this when I walked in, so it could have been longer. This seems to be a super weird behavior, she would roll over to take a breath and then roll onto her back once more. Another whale attempted to interact with her but it didn’t stop the behavior.

I also wanted to make a quick note. I watched both the 7:15 and the 9pm shows. Tilikum was not introduced or brought out for either showing. I also tried to stay after and look in the back pools, I couldn’t see him at all. The water was still and there were no other whales back there. I am not sure where he was. I’m not completely familiar with the park layout. They seemed to be avoiding him like the plague.

If you are interested in watching the video, here it is. It’s very hard to see. Enjoy the loud music!

This wouldn’t be the first time that an anticap put up a handful of pictures and a video that was 1:21 and claimed that the behavior went on for a much longer period of time. I only point out this possible exaggeration of the facts because you went to 2 shows didn’t see tili and made a statement saying “they seem to be avoiding him like the plague”. I smell anticap drama. Enough said.
griffinstorme

griffinstorme:

tillytrua123:

Saw Tilikum tonight! He did the splash segment alone and he is gorgeous.

*sigh*
DO we need to talk about the evil of caged sea mammals

Shut up we don’t wanna fucking here it. This person went to seaworld and had a great time and wants to share their experience. So pull the jam outta your twat and get over it. Go bother someone else. BTW I’m giving you the finger.
lcarlo

lcarlo:

#Blackfish #Tilikum serving life sentence @ #seaworld let’s get him out of there!

So tired of these idiots. Let’s get him outta there??? What do you plan on doing with him once he’s out of there? Oh wait I know! Let’s throw him in the ocean where he can be FREEEEE! Cause surely you don’t give a shit if he dies of a slow painful death of an infection due to his teeth. But who cares about a simply little thing like that because you feel good cause you set him free. And don’t go there about a sea pen cause the result will be the same.
confessionsofaseaworldemployee

theincredibleorca:

confessionsofaseaworldemployee:

From SW’s animal info training session, 5/09/2014:

They essentially had an hour and a half of “training”, which was really a very long anti-Blackfish speech/presentation. The hr reps basically showed the emps most of the videos on the “SeaWorld Cares” site. There were also a couple of…

In addition to the conservation status of the orcas… SeaWorld doesn’t breed their orcas in a way that’s conducive to any wild release. They mix transients and residents, two groups with very different behaviors and might even be different subspecies. If they’re breeding ‘em for conservation, they should really do some research and find out if transients and residents are genetically distinct enough to call them different subspecies. If it turns out they are different, then mixed orcas would likely be considered unsuitable for any wild release. Conservation breeding programs generally avoid mixing subspecies. You know the statistic about how there are more privately owned tigers in Texas than there are in the wild, or whatever? People often ask why those tigers aren’t used for breeding, and it’s because the majority are mixes. (often called generic tigers, American tigers, or unflatteringly, junk tigers) They are considered useless for conservation, and I’m pretty sure the AZA doesn’t even let their zoos breed them any more. Maybe it would be different for orcas, but if SW wants a releasable population, they should avoid mixing until there’s more info.

And, if SW is hoping to one day release orcas… They’d really have to change the way the animals are kept. The captive ones are kept in unnatural social groups, and enclosures that don’t resemble natural environments at all. Even if rehabilitated for wild release, a captive-born orca likely won’t know how to interact with normal orcas, something that would be a big issue. Not to mention, how would an orca release even work? If you have a wild-born orca and you know where the family pod is, you bring it to that, but captive orcas? It is possible for another pod to adopt it, but I wouldn’t count on it, especially since, again, a captive orca often hasn’t had normal interactions. You’d probably have to create a whole captive pod and release ‘em all at once. Honestly, due to social structure and lifestyle, orcas are a pretty poor candidate for captive breeding programs in the first place…

And yeah, the captive gene pool is too small to really have much of a conservation breeding program. It would be unethical (not to mention, counterproductive to the conservation aspect) to go around taking wild orcas outside of the ones in immediate danger of dying. If they do business with parks that obtain from wild captures, they’re condoning the practice, and orphan cases don’t happen often enough for them to replenish from that.

Just as well, the fact that SW goes on and on about how a captive orca can’t be released should be proof enough that they don’t have orca conservation on the mind when they breed. I go to zoos rather frequently, and I’ve never been to one that tells me the tigers/elephants/whatever they breed can’t go into the wild. After all, that’s kind of the point of conservation breeding. SW can’t have it both ways; they can’t say they breed for conservation work while at the same time saying captive animals can never be released, and expect people to buy it.

While we’re on the subject… If we’re talking conservation breeding programs, are there any places that breed endangered cetaceans for such purposes? I actually don’t know of many endangered ones kept in captivity, but I’m sure there’s some somewhere. I just find it interesting that there are a lot of aquariums and parks that TALK about captive breeding for endangered cetaceans, but not really any acting on that. Any theories as to why that is? I think there was an attempt on keeping and breeding baiji (the recently extinct Chinese river dolphin) but it was never really successful.

Hmmm…just curious so are you saying that they lied about whether or not they bring in semen/genes from outside their parks? Because we all know that they brought in kshamenk semen as someone already pointed out. Also your saying that they have 29 breeding aged whales? They don’t is anyone else getting good red flags from this blog??? Can I be the first to call bullshit. Just saying
kyrrahaf

kyrrahaf:

freeoceanus:

kyrrahaf:

freeoceanus:

kyrrahaf:

passion4killerwhales:

This is Tilikum. His story is probably the saddest of them all. In this section of the video, it was said that he was barely moving and he was hardly visible. He barely came up for air and when he did, it was not much. you usually can see the mist spout up from their blowholes, but Tilikum did not even look like he was breathing. He has been restricted from trainer contact. He does receive massages, but from a fire hose, six feet away from him. He has been bullied by the females and is not allowed to be with any of them. His only companion is Trua, who you’d often see with Tilikum more than half the time. But even so, Tilikum may be the loneliest whale ever to be in captivity. This video was taken by the Humane society. Captivity kills.

Just gonna contribute: as of seven months ago Tilikum is always with Trua. His grandson is spending 100% of his time with him. He also gets his dorsal and flukes rubbed by human hands, as well as body strubs from various types of brushes. 

Why is Trua segregated completely from the ‘pod’? Has Katina started relentlessly attacking him as well?

And as much as I hate to say it, with Tilikum’s health the way it’s reported to be it seems likely he won’t survive much longer (certainly not years) - does Seaworld have a plan to reintroduce Trua to the others? Assuming that he hasn’t been forced out and that he’s simply being denied the chance to interact with his pod in an attempt to provide some sort of social bond for Tilikum (although the cruelty of removing Trua from his ‘pod’ to benefit Tilikum should not be overlooked).

So, what I’m basically asking here is - have Seaworld made a decision to remove Trua from his ‘pod’ to benefit Tilikum, thereby severing his social bonds and (as far as we can see) creating a situation wherein we’ll have another lonely male in Orlando upon Tilikum’s death? Or is the Orlando ‘pod’ even worse off than we usually hear?

Malia and Nalani have been cycling and they are trying to avoid them being impregnated by him as he’s reached sexual maturity is what I’ve gathered. That, and company for Tilly. He hasn’t been chased away, and I think, should he be reintroduced, it would go well. 

I honestly am not all that pleased with Trua’s situation either; I’m glad Tilikum has more companionship - the most since Tai passed - but Trua needs to be with the other young whales, and I’m sure Kayla misses his company as well. 

I would like to know what you’ve heard about Tilikum’s health recently, however. From my view he’s been doing well, responding well to trainers and engaging in play, as well as performing well in shows (usually one or two a day on top of training and husbandry sessions). 

Would it not be easier for them to put Malia and Nalani on birth control? I’m sure I’ve read that Unna is (although I’m not certain as to why) and with them both being so young surely Seaworld can’t be thinking about attempting a pregnancy with either of them (this year at least) - then again I’d hope Nalani would be ruled for pregnancies completely. 

As glad as I am that Trua had not been forced out, to me it seems as if there are better option available (birth control) that have not been taken and with the Orlando ‘pod’ as unstable as it seems to have always been removing Trua is, to me, one of the worst possible options. Looking at anything up to five years away from the ‘pod’, and in the knowledge that his mother won’t be there to protect him I can’t see an reintroduction going smoothly for him. 

The last I heard about Tilikum’s health was only a few days ago (although I’m not sure how old the article was now - I’ll go and have a look for it as I think I remember how I got to it), there was a mention about the drugs he’s given (not new news but daily doses of drugs are not indicative of a healthy animal) and something about him either being extremely lethargic (although I don’t imagine that’s strange for him). There had been nothing surprising/new I’ve seen but the same old stories (or possible rumours - something I’d imagine to be common with Tilikum given his fame) persist with him. And of course, he’s male, he’s 32 (??), he’s never seemed to be the healthiest orca and he’s renowned for his ‘chronic-illnesses’ - added to the fact that he’s in captivity and you’ve got an orca that is not going to last much longer (it feels horrible saying that). 

Note: I’m not suggesting leaving Tilikum alone all the time, but allowing Trua time with the others, as well as allowing Tilikum access to some of the other females without Katina present would be a far better use of everyone’s time and it would, in my opinion, strengthen the pod structure vastly. It seems to me that Orlando had a long history of segregating ‘trouble’ orcas and doing little to improve the situation. 

I feel like if they could have put the girls on BC, they would have. This is obviously not the best choice for the pod as a whole - segregating the males from the females is not ideal. I don’t know why they’re not on BC, and I’d love to ask a trainer if I get the chance. 

I can definitely agree with that. That’s what they were doing before - Trua spending a day or two with Til then back to the pod for a few days, then back to Til. 

As far as Trua not having any protecting from Katina, keep in mind Kayla is very protective of him, so much so that I witnessed her displace Nalani when she was ragging on him, which made her and Katina have a brief squabble. She’s defended him against her matriarch before, and I’m sure she’d do it again. I’ve never witnessed any awful squabbles, which is why I say I don’t think it would go down poorly, but I am also not a trainer, so of course I can’t say for sure. 

Well, from what I’ve seen he’s been doing well. I know he’s chronically ill, and I’m always worried that he’s going to have another spell, but he’s been on the up for a while now, so hopefully he stays that way for a while longer. (He’s definitely up there in years, though, and it hurts to think about, indeed.)

@ passion4killerwhales. You do realize that what your trying to make a big deal about Is old news. Not that that surprises me because you anticaps seem to thrive on dwelling on the negative. From the looks of the pictures this is at least three years old cause the rocks are still there. Yes pretty sure everyone knows that after Dawns death and Taimas and Kalinas Tilikum went through a bit of depression. Wouldn’t you? Towards the end of 2011 he became very ill and his illness was described as you stated above (wouldn’t move, barley breathing etc) and go figure it was seaworld employees who nursed him back to health. So this whole thing you posted is a bit late. Do you not see or do you choose not to see the recent videos and pictures of tilikum interacting with trainers, spending time with Trua, participating in dws and shows. No of course not you’d rather dwell on a thing that happen 3 or 4 years ago. So typical. Don’t know why you made seaworld the devil in your mind but that’s about all this is. Sure you can choose to be anticap but seaworld is a good facility and they take care of their animals. By the way not only does tili get rubbed down with the hose I’ve also seen them using a brush and I’m pretty sure that even though they have to keep a barrier between them they do still touch him with their hands.
tokitaee

Guys, from now on, tag @SeaWorldCares in all your cetacean-related posts…their Activity will blow up with anti-cap posts and they’ll realize what a mistake they’ve made.

If this wasn’t so fucking stupid it would actually be damn funny. You armchair anticaps waste all your time worrying about who blogs on tumblr and how you can chase them away. Do you really think that’s going to help your agenda at all? Here’s the answer no. Newsflash you can waste all your time doing all this dumb shit you’ve been doing on tumblr and what do you have to show for it hmm let’s see, you managed to chase away a few procaps from posting on tumblr. Whooooaa whoo great job. You didn’t make them anticaps they are still procaps who just happen to not post here anymore big fucking accomplishment. Meanwhile, you waste your time here on tumblr and guess what seaworld is still open and PACKED everyday. Morgan is gonna stay in captivity etc etc etc. You will not end captivity, you will not shut down seaworld, you will not free the orcas. So if bullying a few teeny boppers off of tumblr helps you sleep at night knock yourself out. Your stupid blackfishmovie has been out for a year now and at the end of the day what’s really changed nothing. The only accomplishment political is that orcas can’t be held captive in the state of New York, duh they don’t have any anyway all the rest of the political bs will never get anywhere. Even your adorable little protests held on the 24th do nothing because again seaworld is PACKED. So you keep up the good work chasing people off tumblr losers.

passion4killerwhales
passion4killerwhales:

"I met him. All of my world had turned right side up". But as fate would have it, I died to a stillborn calf, just like my mother. I never got to say goodbye to him. As my soul left this dying world, I could see him in a corner, crying. He didn’t know what happened to me. I told him I would be ok. And not to worry. He never knew that that day would’ve been the last time he ever saw me. I will miss the days he would perform with me and kiss me on my cheek. I will never forget how he would tell me I make the stars look like they are not shining. He loved me with all his heart. He completed my heart as much as I did him. 
       He kept trying to peer through the gates to see if I were alright. Little to him did he know my lifeless body was being taken away in a stretcher. He cried my name over and over and asking me if I were okay. I never returned his calls. Silence. 
      As the trainers opened the gates, he rushed out to greet me with a congratulations and a warm welcome. But I wasn’t there. I wasn’t there to see his face. I wish I had been. What id give to say goodbye to him. I never got to. What id give to see his face, one more time. 
        What could’ve been going through his mind? His only love and pride had been stolen by SeaWorlds greed.  His face went from a smile to an instant frown. He was furious that yet again SeaWorlds greedy ways had taken him away from something-no-SOMEONE that he loved dearly. He had no hope. No one to keep him calm and happy. 
       My soul frequently comes down to visit him and tell him I am still here. And instead of him telling me, I would try to tell him it was going to be okay. He never hears me or sees me. He has drowned himself in his hate and fury. 
        Years passed and he has still not forgiven. It’s a cloudy day and he is in dining with shamu today. Dawn had asked my love to do a perimeter pec wave. And after that….
         Isolation. Dawn is gone. I’m gone. Who has he got left?  Who will be there and tell him it will be ok? 
        This should’ve never happened. I wish I could come back and see him. And I am sure he would give his life to see me again. Why?  Why must the human ways of life tear things apart?  I wish this could have ended differently. 
Hear me now my love and my sunshine………
    It will be okay.

 You people are so fucking morbid. People die, animals die. When someone dies we mourn and then we move on as best we can. Why you people must dwell on this crap is beyond me. Tilikum is not alone yes Dawn died and now he has Daniel yes taima died and now he has trua. Its the circle of life it’s just how it is. Keep in mind as you blame seaworld that if it wasn’t for seaworld he would have never met taima and she would have never existed in the first place. As a stated many times now please get a fucking life.

passion4killerwhales:

"I met him. All of my world had turned right side up". But as fate would have it, I died to a stillborn calf, just like my mother. I never got to say goodbye to him. As my soul left this dying world, I could see him in a corner, crying. He didn’t know what happened to me. I told him I would be ok. And not to worry. He never knew that that day would’ve been the last time he ever saw me. I will miss the days he would perform with me and kiss me on my cheek. I will never forget how he would tell me I make the stars look like they are not shining. He loved me with all his heart. He completed my heart as much as I did him.
He kept trying to peer through the gates to see if I were alright. Little to him did he know my lifeless body was being taken away in a stretcher. He cried my name over and over and asking me if I were okay. I never returned his calls. Silence.
As the trainers opened the gates, he rushed out to greet me with a congratulations and a warm welcome. But I wasn’t there. I wasn’t there to see his face. I wish I had been. What id give to say goodbye to him. I never got to. What id give to see his face, one more time.
What could’ve been going through his mind? His only love and pride had been stolen by SeaWorlds greed. His face went from a smile to an instant frown. He was furious that yet again SeaWorlds greedy ways had taken him away from something-no-SOMEONE that he loved dearly. He had no hope. No one to keep him calm and happy.
My soul frequently comes down to visit him and tell him I am still here. And instead of him telling me, I would try to tell him it was going to be okay. He never hears me or sees me. He has drowned himself in his hate and fury.
Years passed and he has still not forgiven. It’s a cloudy day and he is in dining with shamu today. Dawn had asked my love to do a perimeter pec wave. And after that….
Isolation. Dawn is gone. I’m gone. Who has he got left? Who will be there and tell him it will be ok?
This should’ve never happened. I wish I could come back and see him. And I am sure he would give his life to see me again. Why? Why must the human ways of life tear things apart? I wish this could have ended differently.
Hear me now my love and my sunshine………
It will be okay.

You people are so fucking morbid. People die, animals die. When someone dies we mourn and then we move on as best we can. Why you people must dwell on this crap is beyond me. Tilikum is not alone yes Dawn died and now he has Daniel yes taima died and now he has trua. Its the circle of life it’s just how it is. Keep in mind as you blame seaworld that if it wasn’t for seaworld he would have never met taima and she would have never existed in the first place. As a stated many times now please get a fucking life.
ahappyendingwithaslitthroat
ahappyendingwithaslitthroat:

#tilikum #Tilly #tilikumwhale #sea world #savethewhales  #killerwhales  #blackfish  #dawnblackfish #whales

So tired of ignorant assholes like yourself posting shit like this. You are tacky, heartless and disrespectful to Dawn and her family. Unless your god you don’t know if Dawn would still be here or not. You anticaps make me sick. Dawns family very much respected and supported what she did for a living and still supports seaworld til this day. As I’ve said before you fucking anticaps need to get a life.

ahappyendingwithaslitthroat:

#tilikum #Tilly #tilikumwhale #sea world #savethewhales #killerwhales #blackfish #dawnblackfish #whales

So tired of ignorant assholes like yourself posting shit like this. You are tacky, heartless and disrespectful to Dawn and her family. Unless your god you don’t know if Dawn would still be here or not. You anticaps make me sick. Dawns family very much respected and supported what she did for a living and still supports seaworld til this day. As I’ve said before you fucking anticaps need to get a life.